Return-Path: Received: from mx5.boston.juno.com (mx5.boston.juno.com [64.136.24.126]) by m7.nyc.untd.com with SMTP id AAA857MW3AVLSDXA for (sender ); Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:51:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from m2.bos.untd.com (m2.bos.untd.com [64.136.24.65]) by mx5.boston.juno.com with SMTP id AAA857MW3ARMFKEA for (sender ); Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:51:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from cookie.juno.com by cookie.juno.com for <"y/QncSg0oA4+VdBCdxoDJ59Lk/JlOG/xaxm84688X2Dh8USSi8OQQg=="> Received: (from ltownsend3@juno.com) by m2.bos.untd.com (jqueuemail) id HGA4MVYG; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:51:03 EST To: hammoude@juno.com Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 07:49:03 -0800 Subject: Re: guest? Message-ID: <20021029.074908.-280935.3.LTownsend3@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 4.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 3-4,8-9,17-18,21-24,26-90 X-Juno-Att: 0 X-Juno-RefParts: 0 From: Louise D Townsend Hi, Andrew. Sorry I missed your call last night. Can you send me your writings electronically or are you worried about privacy issues (in which case, I suppose I could pick them up, or you could mail them to me or drop them off -- let me know what works). I am very interested in this issue and have become more so because of recent reading (did you see the review in the NYT of a book on animal rights by a former Bush speech writer?), so I look forward to reading your material, and I suspect I will learn a lot from it. That said, even if I begin to feel the kind of moral repugnance you describe (and I think I already feel it to a certain extent), I doubt it would persuade me that Karen should be barred from the group because of what she does for a living. The issue here (for me) was finding a congenial and smart addition to the group. As I pointed out to you the other day, we don't know everything about everybody who is already in the group, their politics, their vices, the possible ramifications of the work they do on the environment, the world at large, etc. (or do you?). To compare Karen to Mengele is to be absurdly reductionist, it seems to me, but perhaps after reading your material, I will see things differently. Louise On Thu, 24 Oct 2002 23:03:01 -0700 Andrew Hammoude writes: > Hi Louise, > > You're right -- your friend Karen is indeed smart and thoughtful; we > just had a great conversation. > > But not quite smart and thoughtful enough, and I'm vetoing her > membership in book group. She has been, and continues to be, > involved in animal experimentation, something I find morally > repugnant, and I prefer not to have to associate with the > perpetrators. > > If she truly loves to be challenged, then I believe she must have > been delighted by our conversation. > > Regrets, > Andrew > > > On Mon, 21 Oct 2002 11:11:18 -0700 Louise D Townsend > writes: > > Hi, Andrew. > > > > I have a friend in another book group and we're both kind of > > wearying of the lack of analysis and lackluster discussions that > we > > have had recently in that group. So I started to tell her about > our > > group and how lively and interesting the discussion can be and how > I > > really like what we read, the people, etc., etc., blah, blah, > blah. > > Anyway, I think this friend (Karen) would be a good fit. She's a > > scientist, smart and thoughtful, and really loves to be > challenged. > > > > > > So, might I bring her as a guest to the White Teeth discussion and > > > see if she might come on a regular basis? I wasn't sure if you > had > > a specific policy on membership (I remember you grilling me on the > > > phone!). Karen would be happy to call and talk to you if you > wanted > > to hear more about her reading experiences and interests, etc. > > > > Thanks, Andrew. > > > > Louise > > > > Louise Townsend > > 1134 19th Avenue, E. > > Seattle, WA 98112 > > (206) 329-2907 > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > Earn $20 for every new person you bring to Juno Platinum To learn > how, go to www.juno.com/refer Louise Townsend 1134 19th Avenue, E. Seattle, WA 98112 (206) 329-2907 ________________________________________________________________ Earn $20 for every new person you bring to Juno Platinum To learn how, go to www.juno.com/refer